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    Very nice... while I would go darker in some places, it is VERY easy to tell now that these are different levels. One question... the exclusionary path, does it come out UNDER the ledge or at the same height? Since it is darker in color, it appears that it goes under the ledge and that the exit is down in the dark area below the ledge. If that is not the case, I would suggest making the path the same color as your main floors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfrazierjr View Post
    Very nice... while I would go darker in some places, it is VERY easy to tell now that these are different levels. One question... the exclusionary path, does it come out UNDER the ledge or at the same height? Since it is darker in color, it appears that it goes under the ledge and that the exit is down in the dark area below the ledge. If that is not the case, I would suggest making the path the same color as your main floors.
    Thanks, yeah I have been steadily looking it over and adding more and more depth where it seems to be lacking or needing it. I do have to again say thanks, that was all you

    The path is hidden by an illusion but I think I need to shorten that up to just the entry way, I didn't see what you were saying until you said it.

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    That looks very nice.. Repped

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    eViLe_eAgLe: Thanks


    Next little project in all this, or should I say goal is the ability for this to work as sections to create a much larger map to explore. So I created an 8x8 that exists using 2 of the sections already created.
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    This new section fits between these 2 sections
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    (Lets hope all this web stuff properly works)

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    for the river, I would suggest either a) reduce the opacity (using a layer mask) where it abuts the floor IF the water is the same level as the floor at it's edge or b) add shadows and a hard edge to the floor to indicate that the water is below floor level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfrazierjr View Post
    for the river, I would suggest either a) reduce the opacity (using a layer mask) where it abuts the floor IF the water is the same level as the floor at it's edge or b) add shadows and a hard edge to the floor to indicate that the water is below floor level.
    While not hard, was creating a kind of shoreline/bank with the shadow and browns but after you brought that up I clearly see I did nothing with the water to reflect that it was a soft shoreline rather then a hard edge. Indeed something to work on, I also noticed I need to be a bit more consistent with how I do the outer shadow of the rock walls, started getting a bit heavy.

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    Took your advice and this is what I came up with, in this effort I am trying to soften the edges of the shoreline/banks. I didn't notice it until you brought it up but have to admit looks much better softened. While not in this case I also can see some times when the water edge will need a hard dark line but I think each instance will be a case by case basis depending on what I am striving for there. I also took note to not be so heavy on the external shadowing of the rocks.

    Thanks again

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    After all these maps, I can smell a tutorial coming.. *laughs*

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    Yep.. water parts look quite a bit better.... I will say that for "me" NOT having either a bevel or gradient dark->transparent shadow on the "floor" make it appear as if the lighter parts are above the dark parts. this is just something that the mind does (in many people anyway) automatically which is why the making a "hard" demarcation with a dark->transparent "pattern"works so well to indicate "lower" in height transitions.

    Anyway.. these are very nice textures you are using.. I really like the floor texture.. where did you get it from or did you make it?
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    That added a lot to your water and I dig how you seperated the different ground layers of the cave - nice shading.

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    I played with the bevel a bit and really did not like what I was seeing for results so I went instead with the gradient method, still not sure if this doesn't do much more then what I was doing just perhaps on a bit more consistent basis but for walls maybe that is what is needed. Still are still a few places of course for hand touch up where the blur didn't quite cover however wanted to get a feel for if this is what you were meaning. Not sure if I understood.. *laughs*

    Moe: Thanks

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    Textures: They were free ones I grabbed I think or I took the picture and then darkened or lightened based on what I desired for these maps. I can dig them up and post if you desire.

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