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    funny how theres a fighter school, priest school and wizard school... but no mundane school!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vorropohaiah View Post
    funny how theres a fighter school, priest school and wizard school... but no mundane school!
    That's not necessarily out of the ordinary, a mundane school would be more of a public school and, depending on the setting, these probably didn't even exist. To get an education then you would have to pay for it, which would mean being sent to one of the private guild schools (Wizard, Priest, Fighter, etc.) unless there is some law that dictates an education (Robin Hobb: Soldier Son, the first born is the heir, the second born the soldier son, third born priest, etc.). More commonly people would have private tutors if they were rich/privileged enough, or if in a castle/keep then the children may be taught together in lessons.

    The first public education systems were generally pushed by various priesthoods to spread religion, or by those who wanted to spread knowledge (Confucius).

    So not necessarily a given, depends on the world and history



    Also, to the OP, hand guide for how many different trade buildings you are likely to find in cities/town of various sizes: http://www222.pair.com/sjohn/blueroom/demog.htm
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    Though in medieval times, children of the wealthy and nobility would often get a religious education. If I remember my medieval history correctly, many of the Christian monks would be the teachers. But, indeed, an education would generally be the privilege of the rich.

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    Awesome thread! I will be sure to use this. I'm building a Minecraft city in Single-player (just to find out it'll probably be a hamlet with a wall around it XD.) I have hosted a server before, so I could again, if there was someone interested in building a real city on Minecraft. (for those who don't know Minecraft is a 3D gaming system with an extensive community, so the server could get plugins like WorldEdit and WorldPainter to make the building a little easier.) I will definitely use this thread to help me build this town and any in the future
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    Thank you for the list!

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    I thought the point of this thread was a general reference list of all the types of building that COULD be found in a settlement. It isn't really relevant whether ordinary schools existed or not; some towns MIGHT have had schools, and so they should be included in the list.

    As an aside, I also strongly suspect that schools did exist in towns in the past, they just weren't as common as we know them today. I haven't verified this, so it might be wrong, but: in Muslim society, children would often go to the madrasa, where they would receive instruction in both religious and non-religious matters; schools have existed in Christian countries for centuries, and I would be very surprised if the same wasn't true of China, India and Japan, not to mention other places.

    One thing to consider, though, is that schools were not always located in schoolhouses. I could easily imagine that in some rural village in, say, England, a charitable vicar would volunteer to teach the children inside the Church or Town Hall. It was a less formal, more fluid arrangement than now.

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    Some really interesting stuff here. Thanks to Green-Pilgrim for starting this thread. I want to do a smaller town, and hopefully I can master a 3-D look to it by doing illustrations for the buildings. The recent featured work by Blaidd Drwg is an excellent example of what I'll be trying to do - (only I'll be working on a smaller scale). This is very helpful - the part I like most about that featured map is how each building is detailed.
    The best maps are the ones we like the most after looking at the longest.

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    @TheHoarseWhisperer

    It's a fair point that you COULD potentially find a school, but by that same principle you COULD potentially find a "Dragon Breeder" and any other number of miscellaneous buildings. I was going more along the lines of it isn't typical to find a "school" as for the general fantasy setting (medieval English type era combined with high fantasy), as you yourself have correctly identified, most "schools" were done in monasteries, mosques, etc. Schools have differed over the years and have indeed existed in one form or another, Spartans were taught to fight and read, but given that they had a warrior culture I wouldn't say this is the typical "school" that most people would identify with and is probably more accurate to the listed "Warrior School". The variations of different types of school are all dependent on too many factors to be listed.

    There's no parameters to the list (era/high fantasy/technology level/culture) so the list is pretty much endless anyway.

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    i just find it difficult to undestand how a palce without the resources or inclination for a mundane university to then have a wizards school, which to all intents and purposes would be a far more exclusive and intense version of what medieval/reinassance universities/colleges were. just seems odd to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by vorropohaiah View Post
    i just find it difficult to undestand how a palce without the resources or inclination for a mundane university to then have a wizards school, which to all intents and purposes would be a far more exclusive and intense version of what medieval/reinassance universities/colleges were. just seems odd to me
    Acyually I don't think its necessarely the way you said, Depending on the world a wizards school could be "more mundane" than a mundane school (if that makes any sense).

    At this point I agree with what was already said here: till where my knowledge goes, there were not many "mundane schools" where children went and learned math and reading/writing. From what I know there were specific schools where children would learn the basics and a specific skill (fighting, priesting, knighting, and others "ings" ).

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