sorry for not responding sooner i have had stuff happen with my wife's back recently, while i can draw for some reason i cant draw in photoshop as i don't have a tablet and pen and will not be able to afford one for quite a while but even then i doubt i will be able to draw in photoshop as i don't know photoshop that well and how it works with a tablet. i am not giving up just yet i am going to try and hand draw maps and look for other tutorials here in the guild so i still have fight in me for it. i really do appreciate all the help you guys have given me and i don't want to let goand waste your time as i know there are others who need help too.