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    Quote Originally Posted by acrosome View Post
    Well then, while we're at it then why not fix all of Tolkien's errors? Like Mordor's square mountain range, and the mouth of the Entwash?
    A bit late for the mountain range.

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    It's a very nice and living reproduction of the Middle Earth map. Everytime I look at this world, wherever the map comes from (as long as it is well done), I start dreaming
    Your little sketches of the different places add to the charm of this piece.

    Beautiful work, thanks for sharing

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    More smaller illustrations added.
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    I repeat, this is one of the coolest maps of Middle-earth I've ever seen.
    What do these white circles around some locations mean?
    And one note - a typo in the name: Erech - not Ereth.
    And Erech is not a town (as the symbols on many maps suggest). Erech was the name of a hill, or hill-top, Upon the summit stood a smooth black globe - the Stone of Erech.
    Quote Originally Posted by acrosome View Post
    Well then, while we're at it then why not fix all of Tolkien's errors? Like Mordor's square mountain range, and the mouth of the Entwash?
    You didn't understand. I don't mean to correct mistakes in the creation of the Tolkien world. I'm fine with Mordor's square mountain range.
    But I think that when we draw a map of Middle-earth, we should focus more on the content of the books, not on existing maps.

    A few examples:
    1. On many maps, Erech is represented by the symbol of the town - and that's a mistake. Erech was a hill.
    2. The Nurn coasts was Mordor's agricultural land, so it was green, not desert.
    3. Rohan was not a flat plain. It was rather a hilly steppe, especially its northern part called Wold (term used to describe a range of hills consisting of open country overlying limestone or chalk).
    4. And so on.

    So instead of once again redrawing the map, maybe we should draw the Middle East as it is described in the books.
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    If I were to hazard a guess.... The circles show the locations of the icon insets lining the left side of the map. They also coincide with most of the major locations mentioned in the LotR trilogy. That's just me guessing though. Did I get it right? Did I win a chew toy?

    Oh and before I forget, this is a fine map. Very fine indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impractical Cartographer View Post
    I repeat, this is one of the coolest maps of Middle-earth I've ever seen.
    What do these white circles around some locations mean?
    And one note - a typo in the name: Erech - not Ereth.
    And Erech is not a town (as the symbols on many maps suggest). Erech was the name of a hill, or hill-top, Upon the summit stood a smooth black globe - the Stone of Erech.

    You didn't understand. I don't mean to correct mistakes in the creation of the Tolkien world. I'm fine with Mordor's square mountain range.
    But I think that when we draw a map of Middle-earth, we should focus more on the content of the books, not on existing maps.

    A few examples:
    1. On many maps, Erech is represented by the symbol of the town - and that's a mistake. Erech was a hill.
    2. The Nurn coasts was Mordor's agricultural land, so it was green, not desert.
    3. Rohan was not a flat plain. It was rather a hilly steppe, especially its northern part called Wold (term used to describe a range of hills consisting of open country overlying limestone or chalk).
    4. And so on.

    So instead of once again redrawing the map, maybe we should draw the Middle East as it is described in the books.
    Ok, thank you! As I said before - it's a long time since I've read the book.
    But I'm thankful for your comments - map updated. If you can give more advise for improvement please do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greason Wolfe View Post
    If I were to hazard a guess.... The circles show the locations of the icon insets lining the left side of the map. They also coincide with most of the major locations mentioned in the LotR trilogy. That's just me guessing though. Did I get it right? Did I win a chew toy?

    Oh and before I forget, this is a fine map. Very fine indeed.
    Indeed, white circles are the illustrations on the side. And thank you!
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    Probably the last udpate. Thanks to Impractical Cartographer, who provided info to correct some mistakes and adding details.
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    I added Edoras to the illustrations and rearranged them.
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    Gorgeous map ! I love the place and I love your style...what could go wrong ?

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    Absolutely fantastic work, Sapiento. I love the feeling of volume to the land, the shadowy tones, and the wonderful little art pieces. It's the sort of map that would go in a special-edition printing of LotR.

    I just noticed a wee bit detail: the frame for the Barad-dûr art seems to be a few pixels higher than the surrounding ones.

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