Mouse vs. tablet

[Turambar]

I recently switched from a Wacom Intuos to the large Huion Kamvas based on the recommendation of several Guild members. I'm loving it so far. Definitely a more affordable alternative to the Cintiq.

[Diamond]

I recently switched from a Wacom Intuos to the large Huion Kamvas based on the recommendation of several Guild members. I'm loving it so far. Definitely a more affordable alternative to the Cintiq.

Yep, the Kamvas is amazing. I've finished things with it in days instead of weeks.

[Kellerica]

Very true. I originally got my Cintiq because I didn't really know of the many alternatives, but should I ever need to replace mine, I will think long and hard if I have any reason to stick with Wacom. Ifrix uses a XP-Pen and it seems excellent from what I've seen, and was significantly cheaper than my tablet.

But as long as this one works, I'm obviously sticking with it. Although my resolve has been tested a few times when Huion has had a sale and I've kept seeing the ads... I may not need a new tablet, but damnit, it doesn't mean I can't want one

[Diamond]

I may not need a new tablet, but damnit, it doesn't mean I can't want one

Buy it... You know you want to...

[Kellerica]

Buy it... You know you want to...

You're a horrible, horrible person.

[JulieJubz]

My art college used all Cintiq’s back when I attended, so that’s what I went with once I was done in school. I still have my same old Cintiq 12wx and it’s been going extremely strong for 12 years now, haha. I DO want to update onto something bigger (I really do feel like I need the extra space) but I do know that living in Brazil limits me like crazy!

I know another Brazilian artist that got both a Huion and an x-pen, and both died on him and he was left with nothing but dead equipment because Brazil has the stores for both those brands but not actual assistance for if anything happens.

So Wacom continues to be the only one that SORT of would help if needed.

But on the other hand, I know a LOT of professional artists that are switching back to intuits because of neck/back problems. Plus it is just so much cheaper??? So even I’m tempted, even though I adore drawing directly on a screen ;o;

[Kellerica]

At the end of last year I finally cracked, and retired my old Cintiq 22HD. After a long consideration of all the available options, I finally upgraded to a Xencelabs 24''. Absolutely love it so far.

4K screen with a really nice paper-like surface and minimal parallax, and the whole thing is amazingly slim compared to how bulky my old Cintiq was. The tablet comes with a stand, two different pens, and an incredibly handy quick key remote with 8 configureable buttons and a scroll wheel, and the whole package still works out cheaper than Wacom's current 24'' equivalent that doesn't even come with a proper stand. Still not cheap by any means, but I feel I'm definitely getting my money's worth for what I paid. Doubt I'll ever by a Wacom product again.


The stand that the tablet came with was good enough, but I decided to swap it out for a monitor arm from Ergotron. Makes the thing extremely easy to manouver. I can easily pull the tablet close to the edge of the desk and angle it for drawing, and when not in use I can push it back and move it to an upward position so it doubles as a second monitor. This is how my setup looks like:



No regrets about making the upgrade! I also managed to sell my old Cintiq on eBay, and I'm glad to know somebody else can put it to good use.

[JulieJubz]

That’s one of the ones I’ve had my eye on, nice to hear someone who has one and likes it! Good news all around for sure

[Naima]

At the end of last year I finally cracked, and retired my old Cintiq 22HD. After a long consideration of all the available options, I finally upgraded to a Xencelabs 24''. Absolutely love it so far.

4K screen with a really nice paper-like surface and minimal parallax, and the whole thing is amazingly slim compared to how bulky my old Cintiq was. The tablet comes with a stand, two different pens, and an incredibly handy quick key remote with 8 configureable buttons and a scroll wheel, and the whole package still works out cheaper than Wacom's current 24'' equivalent that doesn't even come with a proper stand. Still not cheap by any means, but I feel I'm definitely getting my money's worth for what I paid. Doubt I'll ever by a Wacom product again.


The stand that the tablet came with was good enough, but I decided to swap it out for a monitor arm from Ergotron. Makes the thing extremely easy to manouver. I can easily pull the tablet close to the edge of the desk and angle it for drawing, and when not in use I can push it back and move it to an upward position so it doubles as a second monitor. This is how my setup looks like:



No regrets about making the upgrade! I also managed to sell my old Cintiq on eBay, and I'm glad to know somebody else can put it to good use.

Interesting , do you recomend this Xencelabs 24 ? I always went for wacom but it always gived me all sort of anoying calbe issues and problems that honestly it ****ed me to the point that sometimes it make me unwilling to use preferring mouse.

What I dislike most of the digital screen painti/drawing is that it doesn't feel at all as a paper pen and there is a big distance for me from the tip of the pen and the actual cursor on the screen , for not talking of the delay eventually and the pressure difference.
You say this is the most close to paper like experience available on market right now?

[Kellerica]

Interesting , do you recomend this Xencelabs 24 ? I always went for wacom but it always gived me all sort of anoying calbe issues and problems that honestly it ****ed me to the point that sometimes it make me unwilling to use preferring mouse.

What I dislike most of the digital screen painti/drawing is that it doesn't feel at all as a paper pen and there is a big distance for me from the tip of the pen and the actual cursor on the screen , for not talking of the delay eventually and the pressure difference.
You say this is the most close to paper like experience available on market right now?

For my money, I'd absolutely recommend it.

I obviously haven't had a chance to sample every other device out there, so I'm not comfortable stating that "it's the most close to paper like experience on the market right now", but I can defnitely say that the difference between my old Cintiq and the new Xencelabs is extremely stark. The distance between the pen tip and the cursor on the screen (a.k.a. parallax) is almost non-existant on the new one, although there still is a tiny little gap there. Not sure if it is even possible for there to be no parallax whatsoever, I'd imagine there always needs to be some form of protective glass on top of the screen itself, but at least the techonology seems to have come a long way in the last 10+ years.

As far as the paper feel, I have been really impressed with the surface of the tablet. It has a nice matte finish that at least to me, feels much more like actual paper than a lot of other tablets I've seen over the years.

I haven't really noticed any delay or problems with pressure when drawing, but then again I have been exclusively using a pen display for drawing for the past 8 years. I have at this point completely forgotten what it feels like to draw traditionally or with non-display tablet, so I'm probably not the greatest measuring stick here. I tend to draw with fairly slow and careful strokes too, so I probably wouldn't really notice a delay easily even if there was one.

But at the end of the day, a digital pen display is always digital, and I doubt they will ever get to a point where they feel exactly like real paper. I think it boils down to what you prefer.